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there were four of them, all graduated from the law school. >> in my opinion, this did not come from here, all this outrage. they picked it up somewhere else. in china, continuing the search for survivors after a magnitude 6.6 earthquake. nearly 24 hours have passed since the quake struck the sichuan province. more than 150 people have been killed. more than 5000 injured. >> trapped in the rubble of her house, this girl is one of the many people across china's sichuan province whose home has been flattened or badly damaged by the earthquake. the authorities have sent 2000 soldiers to the area. the premier has flown in to coordinate the rescue efforts. >> emergency services have set up temporary hospitals in the streets to keep the many hundreds of people who have been injured. the epicenter was near where one and a half million people live and where many families have been left homeless and destitute. >> we were living in our old house because our new one has not finished being built yet. but our house has just collapsed. everything collapsed. >> the quake struck at around 8:00 in th
there were four of them, all graduated from the law school. >> in my opinion, this did not come from here, all this outrage. they picked it up somewhere else. in china, continuing the search for survivors after a magnitude 6.6 earthquake. nearly 24 hours have passed since the quake struck the sichuan province. more than 150 people have been killed. more than 5000 injured. >> trapped in the rubble of her house, this girl is one of the many people across china's sichuan province whose...
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about an hour ago you were saying that you felt that the fbi and law enforcement officers knew far more about the suspect van they were letting on. that appears to be the case. in the last few minutes we have decided to reveal what ap has been saying, that the two suspects are brothers from chechnya. >> in deed, brothers from chechnya. we believe their approximate ages, in their early 20's. possibly one of them, possibly suspect number two, who now has been named dzohkar tsarnaev, if i am pronouncing it correctly, may even have a massachusetts driver's license. one ofnow that he was the persons in the vehicle, that carjacking that took place where there was the shootout with police, or suspect number one, who has not been named and who is now deceased, and suspect number two remains at large as a result of that shootout. police have been for many hours looking for the second suspect. it is not clear, though -- his brother, we now know, sustained very serious injuries, especially to the torso, possibly from a massive explosion of the device being detonated. we don't know if the second su
about an hour ago you were saying that you felt that the fbi and law enforcement officers knew far more about the suspect van they were letting on. that appears to be the case. in the last few minutes we have decided to reveal what ap has been saying, that the two suspects are brothers from chechnya. >> in deed, brothers from chechnya. we believe their approximate ages, in their early 20's. possibly one of them, possibly suspect number two, who now has been named dzohkar tsarnaev, if i am...
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. >> we are hearing that from a law-enforcement official. there was an interview at the request of a foreign government. concernequested out of that the fbi spoke with him two years ago because there was concern that before he was about to make an overseas trip, he had in extremist ties. the fbi spoke with him and reported back to the foreign government that they had no concern and this trip would be ok. following this trip, we are hearing that he went to russia where he had family and he came back much more religious and much more observant of his islamic faith. this came from friends that knew him. this is something that will now be a part of this investigation as the president, after speaking with reporters, following the arrest, there will be a full investigation and the full federal resources will be dedicated to answering some of these questions. that is one question that will be examined -- if there was a concern and he was on the radar, why wasn't it followed up on? thank you. more and more is being learned about the two tysarnaev br
. >> we are hearing that from a law-enforcement official. there was an interview at the request of a foreign government. concernequested out of that the fbi spoke with him two years ago because there was concern that before he was about to make an overseas trip, he had in extremist ties. the fbi spoke with him and reported back to the foreign government that they had no concern and this trip would be ok. following this trip, we are hearing that he went to russia where he had family and he...
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it made clear any australians fighting there will be breaking australian law. australia has a big lebanese community. are believedalia to be in of that community. australia posted foreign minister has said a big investment in time and resources is going into finding out how many are part of al qaeda in a non.in leba >> elkton police have arrested six individuals for recruiting people to fight in syria. -- belgian police. there were plotting illegal activity in belgium as well. in russia, a court has adjourned the trial of a leading anti- corruption blogger for a week. he's charged with stealing $500,000 from a state-run firm to suppo. if convicted, the 36-year-old could be jailed for 10 years. the trial of five former executives of a firm that produced faulty silicon for breast implants is under way in southern france. hundreds of women are gathering to tell stories of their suffering. the now defunct company made the implants that were prone to rupture. more than 125,000 women receive them before sales ended in 2010. now more. >> the company bonds and other ex
it made clear any australians fighting there will be breaking australian law. australia has a big lebanese community. are believedalia to be in of that community. australia posted foreign minister has said a big investment in time and resources is going into finding out how many are part of al qaeda in a non.in leba >> elkton police have arrested six individuals for recruiting people to fight in syria. -- belgian police. there were plotting illegal activity in belgium as well. in russia,...
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is that a concern of law enforcement? now that the public has been asked to provide tips, you know, i hate to look like these two guys here. but, you know, any concerns that they they have been b. people taking this into their own hands? >> i don't think so. because i don't think, you know, you look at these two is suspects, you can't jump to any conclusions what their religious affiliation, their race is. they look like caucasians, maybe caucasian mixed with hispanic or some other race. you can't really tell from the photos. i don't know how anybody could focus on any one group. there is no ideology attached to these individuals. the fbi doesn't have that information. so, nobody has claimed this attack which to me doesn't really mean much, because i think even terrorists learn if you claim something, all of a sudden there is this big drone coming down at you, you know, firing missiles. so, i'm not sure that that is something that is really telling here. i think people would certainly participate in reporting. i don't kno
is that a concern of law enforcement? now that the public has been asked to provide tips, you know, i hate to look like these two guys here. but, you know, any concerns that they they have been b. people taking this into their own hands? >> i don't think so. because i don't think, you know, you look at these two is suspects, you can't jump to any conclusions what their religious affiliation, their race is. they look like caucasians, maybe caucasian mixed with hispanic or some other race....
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. >>> this law enforcement are pleading with the public to come through with photos and any information as they try to find whoever is responsible for these deadly bombings. they released these crime scenes pictures -- crime scene pictures from overnight. they were packed with nails and shrapnel and you can see where these went off and bags of those pressure cookers were believed to be transported and you can see battery and wires there and there was even a small circuit board found at the scene. >> at this time there are no claims or responsibility and the range of suspects remains wide open. we are asking if you heard somebody speak about the marathon or the date of april 13 to target this event, somebody knows who did this. >> we are learning about the tiny graduate student killed in that blast. a state run newspaper has identified her at lou linkee. condolences are being left on her microblogging account. at least 14,000 comments had been left on that page. people continues to reach out and in boston media continues to come together. boston television tweeted during a shift change,
. >>> this law enforcement are pleading with the public to come through with photos and any information as they try to find whoever is responsible for these deadly bombings. they released these crime scenes pictures -- crime scene pictures from overnight. they were packed with nails and shrapnel and you can see where these went off and bags of those pressure cookers were believed to be transported and you can see battery and wires there and there was even a small circuit board found at...
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for law enforcement officials there right now? >> right now what they are trying to determine is if he's gone into somebody's house. he could be going into someone's home, seeing if they have weapons, hold them hostage, steal their car, so i think that's the concern right now that that's an additional factor of safety in the area. secondly, we don't know if at this point if maybe he was running to his own residence and in that red dense have more explosive devices or hazardous materials. that's the concern right now. we don't want anybody else out on the street possibly being misidentified as this guy that could have a bad result. the main concern is to keep the public safe. the best way to keep them safe would be in their own home, but check every home and make sure he has not gone into them. >> tom, one thing that's very interesting that happened earlier this evening is police found an individual, it turns out to be an individual who has been since set free, so apparently a completely innocent individual, but this individual was
for law enforcement officials there right now? >> right now what they are trying to determine is if he's gone into somebody's house. he could be going into someone's home, seeing if they have weapons, hold them hostage, steal their car, so i think that's the concern right now that that's an additional factor of safety in the area. secondly, we don't know if at this point if maybe he was running to his own residence and in that red dense have more explosive devices or hazardous materials....
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they both in my view exist in harmony in our law. i would urge the obama administration to use both systems. >> [indiscernible] i spoke 45 minutes last night with the associate director of the fbi. i think all of us are wondering if the russians told us about this guy being a radical islamist into does 11, how could we have missed it? according to the fbi, they said the report -- they took the report from the russians seriously. they interviewed the suspects themselves, the family members, and school officials. they put his name to the system and found no evidence of domestic violence. they sent a report to the russians and said, do you have any more? they never got a reply. he went to russia. how could we not know that? apparently, the misspelling of his name was such that he did not pop up in the system. did he intentionally misspelled tis name, or did the aerofloo just get it wrong? we do not know. let's assume the fbi made a diligent effort to make an investigation based on the russian information. ankly, they did. miss all we fr
they both in my view exist in harmony in our law. i would urge the obama administration to use both systems. >> [indiscernible] i spoke 45 minutes last night with the associate director of the fbi. i think all of us are wondering if the russians told us about this guy being a radical islamist into does 11, how could we have missed it? according to the fbi, they said the report -- they took the report from the russians seriously. they interviewed the suspects themselves, the family...
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that is law enforcement. i presume finding an object that they're not comfortable with and wanting to get rid of it and detonate it. does that -- that's not technically how one would describe it. if one were a homeland official. >> that's a good description for people watching. we don't actually know if it's an unidentified box, a suitcase or what it is. might as well detonate it in a controlled manner than waiting or having someone approach it. that would be -- this is standard operating procedure. in the time that's not very standard, i will say that. just to pick up on what seth was saying, watertown is close to boston. but feels like a very intimate suburb, that this is happening there is very unique for that community obviously. >> all right. just to recap before we switch out and bring on john berm an and his team with the early, early morning anchoring. this is what's been going on since you went to bed. if you're just waking up. obviously, at a roughly 5:15 or so this evening, the fbi seeking the help
that is law enforcement. i presume finding an object that they're not comfortable with and wanting to get rid of it and detonate it. does that -- that's not technically how one would describe it. if one were a homeland official. >> that's a good description for people watching. we don't actually know if it's an unidentified box, a suitcase or what it is. might as well detonate it in a controlled manner than waiting or having someone approach it. that would be -- this is standard operating...
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law enforcement is all over the support structure. they should be able to discover soon enough what the rest of the support structure looks like. gerri: the key to that is taking him alive. a lot of conversation with his and his brothers background. they are chechen from russia and questions is, pardon me. the press conferences beginning we will break away >> to all viewers and listeners in the area who has been very patient. i will have the colonel give a quick update on what we can say about the ongoing investigation i will have a couple of comments then about the stay indoors request then we will turn over to the mayor and in the chief from watertown. >> thank you governor. good afternoon i want to thank all of you for your patience i know you are all tired and we are as well. but we remain committed to this. we do not have an apprehension of our suspect this afternoon. but we will have one. we are committed to that. i want the neighborhood here in watertown to know we went through about 20 streets, a door-to-door with our tactical
law enforcement is all over the support structure. they should be able to discover soon enough what the rest of the support structure looks like. gerri: the key to that is taking him alive. a lot of conversation with his and his brothers background. they are chechen from russia and questions is, pardon me. the press conferences beginning we will break away >> to all viewers and listeners in the area who has been very patient. i will have the colonel give a quick update on what we can say...
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it jams up law enforcement activity. they want to protect all the people coming out because they're curious. certainly, the media that want to report the story. so, that would just be a precautionary measure. i've lived in the world of homeland security for a long time, and even my short drive home, the police presence is amazing. i was passed by about 30 police cars in just a two-mile drive. so, this is significant. what we don't know accidents as is being described earlier, is this significant for boston or significant because there's a big federal investigation going on? we may not know for a little while the people that we're watching on tv right now, it may be that they don't know either and, therefore, they are being very, very cautious about what they're facing. if they're all -- if they're all unrelated, which is entirely still possible, then, you know, boston has just had a very, very active week. and these police officers are treating each thing as serious. >> indeed. we are all using an aabundance of caution a
it jams up law enforcement activity. they want to protect all the people coming out because they're curious. certainly, the media that want to report the story. so, that would just be a precautionary measure. i've lived in the world of homeland security for a long time, and even my short drive home, the police presence is amazing. i was passed by about 30 police cars in just a two-mile drive. so, this is significant. what we don't know accidents as is being described earlier, is this...
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and without break any laws or crossing police lines. frankly i was surprised how closely we could get. there are thousands of unclaimed yellow bags sitting on the sidewalk in boston, massachusetts tonight, sean, from runners who had prepositioned their clothing, their personal items, keys to their car, their cell phone, wallet, credit card, money. two to six thousand of those bags have not been claimed tonight and likely will not at least until tomorrow when some of those runners can gain access. >> and the difficulty for the police is every one of those bags now they must assume and use great caution when looking into them. you mentioned that you flew into logan airport, which is not far from where the finish line is for this marathon. there was an earlier report that airspace was restricted and cell phone service was shut down. cell phones, for those who don't know, can be used to trigger explosive devices. >> all good points. i landed at 6:50 local time. flight from new york could not have been easier. as you know on that route from
and without break any laws or crossing police lines. frankly i was surprised how closely we could get. there are thousands of unclaimed yellow bags sitting on the sidewalk in boston, massachusetts tonight, sean, from runners who had prepositioned their clothing, their personal items, keys to their car, their cell phone, wallet, credit card, money. two to six thousand of those bags have not been claimed tonight and likely will not at least until tomorrow when some of those runners can gain...
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. >> there's no such thing as a slam dunk in criminal law. but this is as close as you get. you've got video tape putting him at the scene. you have a motive in terms of what he's had to say. plus, you have a guy in a car that admissions were made to. it goes on and on. now, could he beat the death penalty? maybe that's a possibility. what should the defense's strategy be. the shoe bomber obviously now serving life, but did not get the death penalty because of your defense. what can the defense possibly do? >> well, they're going to be focused on mitigation at this point, thinking about the possibility of the death penalty. they're going to be looking into his background. they're going to be having him evaluated, potentially, by, you know, forensic evaluations, by psychologists. they're going to be looking at his state of mind. >> it seems like the defense may try to say he was under the influence of his older brother and be some way to mitigate his defense or say he is brainwashed. is there any way that can hold weight? >> good luck with that defense. that's a hail mary def
. >> there's no such thing as a slam dunk in criminal law. but this is as close as you get. you've got video tape putting him at the scene. you have a motive in terms of what he's had to say. plus, you have a guy in a car that admissions were made to. it goes on and on. now, could he beat the death penalty? maybe that's a possibility. what should the defense's strategy be. the shoe bomber obviously now serving life, but did not get the death penalty because of your defense. what can the...
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it is not about gun laws. it is a story. it is a story about what could have prevented the loss of innocent lives and protect the ones of the future. ago, my mother attended high school. member a cheerleader, a of the honors choir. it was ary 11, 1988, day like any other day. she and her friends or eating lunch in the comments area when chaos erupted. >> there was a loud noise. people started screaming. kids were crying. it was so confusing. a first thought there must be a fight. then i saw all of these kids running toward us. tables were turned over and lunch plates were hitting the ground. people were screaming, there is a gun. two sophomores had brought guns to school. ss was the only one who fired. the teacher was critically injured. a well-respected the minister was steadily wounded. >> never did i think there was a gun in my school or that someone had just been shot and killed. confused,s were devastating, scared. long gone were the days when schools were considered a safe haven. stews were told it was an isolated inci
it is not about gun laws. it is a story. it is a story about what could have prevented the loss of innocent lives and protect the ones of the future. ago, my mother attended high school. member a cheerleader, a of the honors choir. it was ary 11, 1988, day like any other day. she and her friends or eating lunch in the comments area when chaos erupted. >> there was a loud noise. people started screaming. kids were crying. it was so confusing. a first thought there must be a fight. then i...
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her brother-in-law is being treated for various cuts and bruises. our team coverage continues. the o. s are starting a lengthy home stand. i'm sure security is going to be affected just as many fans at the ballpark. >> the orioles are working with police, the maryland state authority as well as the major league to boost security. not only here, in surrounding areas like the parking lot and light rail. orioles will be hosting a series with rays that starts tonight. rays were at boston yesterday playing the red sox, hours before the explosion at the marathon. the game here at camden yards starts at 7:05, we have advice on what to do if something were to happen. be prepared. before a large event, coordinate with family and friends. also scout out a place to find cover. follow directions. go with a crowd and not against it. stay aware and create a habit of creating a habit forage emergency exit. here, you can expect to see the beefed up security throughout the city. bat will be staging officers at critical areas where there are crowds incrudessing here at the ballpark. 6th annivers
her brother-in-law is being treated for various cuts and bruises. our team coverage continues. the o. s are starting a lengthy home stand. i'm sure security is going to be affected just as many fans at the ballpark. >> the orioles are working with police, the maryland state authority as well as the major league to boost security. not only here, in surrounding areas like the parking lot and light rail. orioles will be hosting a series with rays that starts tonight. rays were at boston...
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that's the law. you can't tell by looking at someone if a judge has declared a person to be mentally defective. you cannot tell by looking at a person if they are a convicted felon. if you are either of those things, the law says you cannot buy a gun. here is how we check to see if you are a felon or mentally ill before you buy a gun in this country. >> the crew went north to kings port, tennessee to a saturday morning local gun show held in a convention center. it was a smith & wesson mp 45 caliber semi-automatic that first caught our producers eye. asking price, $625. >> it's not brand spanking new. >> cash and carry? >> but it's early and the team opts to keep looking. 10 to 20 minutes later, they circle back to the same table, negotiating for the same gun. >> it's a deal. no background check. it's not needed for a private sale. but the serial is legally required to check id like a driver's license, to make sure the buyer is not from out-of-state. in this case, no identification asked for, no pape
that's the law. you can't tell by looking at someone if a judge has declared a person to be mentally defective. you cannot tell by looking at a person if they are a convicted felon. if you are either of those things, the law says you cannot buy a gun. here is how we check to see if you are a felon or mentally ill before you buy a gun in this country. >> the crew went north to kings port, tennessee to a saturday morning local gun show held in a convention center. it was a smith &...
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there haven't been any arrests but there are reports law enforcement officials have excessed interest in a man seen leaving the scene in dark clothing and there's word this morning a search warrant has been executed in a boston suburb. we go to boston now for the latest. chris, what can you tell us about the investigation? >> reporter: good morning. we're following several leads in regards to this investigation. first of all, the area around boston's copley plaza has been shut off. it's considered an active crime scene and police are busy combing that area for any clues they can find about yesterday's blast. you mentioned this search warrant. it was executed by local police starting around 5:00 yesterday evening. police spent more than seven hours at an apartment complex nearby. police were seen taking out what was believed to be evidence bags to a car. they were also seen questioning a couple of people in that apartment complex but did not appear police left with anybody in custody. we've also been told that police spent some time questioning a person who was injured in one of the bl
there haven't been any arrests but there are reports law enforcement officials have excessed interest in a man seen leaving the scene in dark clothing and there's word this morning a search warrant has been executed in a boston suburb. we go to boston now for the latest. chris, what can you tell us about the investigation? >> reporter: good morning. we're following several leads in regards to this investigation. first of all, the area around boston's copley plaza has been shut off. it's...
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and to that featful day, for many the question was not theology, it was the law. >> we know this man was stockpiling weapons. >> reporter: they began surveillance and planted an undercover agent inside the group. armed with search and arrest warrants, agents decided to move in and take koresh but word had leaked out and made its way back to the compound. the branch devidians were waiting. it's not clear who fired first. >> we were half way into the location when they opened fire on us. >> they started firing at me. and so what happened was is that i fell back in the door and the bullets started coming through the door. some of the men started firing on them. then i started hollering, i was saying go away, there's women and children here, let's talk. >> the door was slammed on our face and we were immediately met by gunfire from numerous places. >> reporter: the gun battle that followed was chaotic and deadly. the fiercest fuselage continued without let up for 45 minutes. >> we were standing, we were having bullets were ricochets around us. a couple of feet from your own feet. then a
and to that featful day, for many the question was not theology, it was the law. >> we know this man was stockpiling weapons. >> reporter: they began surveillance and planted an undercover agent inside the group. armed with search and arrest warrants, agents decided to move in and take koresh but word had leaked out and made its way back to the compound. the branch devidians were waiting. it's not clear who fired first. >> we were half way into the location when they opened...
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you're speaking with law enforcement, local, state, federal law enforcement types. any sense of sort of a general description of where this investigation stands right now, infancy, middle, advanced, anything along those lines? >> earlier in the week we were told forensic teams were expected to wrap up toward the end of the week. there's been no update on that. we're not clear whether in fact they have gotten all the evidence they need from various locations. the one by the tree where one device went off and also by the finish line where another device went off. they've been canvasing the area now and we're told that there were other people. through the last couple days we've seen a number of photographs of people who investigators are interested in speaking with. it'll be very, very interesting if the photographs that we have seen are an individual or individuals who now they are looking for. there are a couple of people who saw or were very difficult to identify. there was nothing that stood out about them. they almost seemed to appear to be shielding themselves, s
you're speaking with law enforcement, local, state, federal law enforcement types. any sense of sort of a general description of where this investigation stands right now, infancy, middle, advanced, anything along those lines? >> earlier in the week we were told forensic teams were expected to wrap up toward the end of the week. there's been no update on that. we're not clear whether in fact they have gotten all the evidence they need from various locations. the one by the tree where one...
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we need to update those laws. the last time the electronics communications privacy act was updated was in 1986 and a lot has changed since then. >> host: grover norquist what kind of access to law enforcement officials in the government have to our e-mails today? >> guest: right now it's not treated as if it's regular mail, snail mail. they can go into it as a third-party and put it up on the cloud. what we need to do is update the law to go alongside the changes in technologies that are sending each other letters. we send each other e-mails instead of keeping europe letter in your pocket you may stored in the cloud somewhere and that's should have the same privacy that you regular snail mail does in the post office delivering something and if we can do that. we have updated this from time to time, the technology changes. the technology has been changing quicker but to send someone an e-mail is like sending them a letter. it's the same thing. the fourth amendment is still there. >> host: also joining our roundtabl
we need to update those laws. the last time the electronics communications privacy act was updated was in 1986 and a lot has changed since then. >> host: grover norquist what kind of access to law enforcement officials in the government have to our e-mails today? >> guest: right now it's not treated as if it's regular mail, snail mail. they can go into it as a third-party and put it up on the cloud. what we need to do is update the law to go alongside the changes in technologies...
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all of that film needs to be recovered and reviewed by law enforcement. we know there were two explosive devices about the length of a football field apart. so we need to show pictures. if we can't show obviously somebody putting both devices down, we need photographs showing who was at one area? who was at the other? who disappeared very quickly? that is all going to help law enforcement as they try to put these blown-up pieces together to give us a face and a motive for a killer. >> all right. a giant puzzle pieces they're trying to put together at the moment. clint van zandt, thank you so much. >>> nervous investors looking for fallout. the selloff continuing overseas this morning. weak chinese economic data sparked monday's fall. and later the bombings in boston drove up investors' fears. police and military presence ramp up at travel hubs in major cities. in boston, governor deval patrick saying the city is open, but it will not be business as usual there. and thanks to marathon runners who ran straight to the city's hospitals and donated blood, mass
all of that film needs to be recovered and reviewed by law enforcement. we know there were two explosive devices about the length of a football field apart. so we need to show pictures. if we can't show obviously somebody putting both devices down, we need photographs showing who was at one area? who was at the other? who disappeared very quickly? that is all going to help law enforcement as they try to put these blown-up pieces together to give us a face and a motive for a killer. >> all...
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>> first of all the fbi and other law enforcement agencies need to plug the leaks. it's very irresponsible for someone with inside information in an investigation like this to put out information that could be detrimental and affect the integrity of the investigation. they could be prosecuted. they could be prosecuted for doing that. so they need to stop the leaks, first of all. they probably should have a spokesperson or someone at least providing some information to the media, even if they can't tell them when they are doing right now. it's been a long time since they have been out in front of the media. at least tell them what's going on and don't answer any specific questions they don't have to answer or don't want to answer at this point in time. >> jeff, thank you, sir. >> you're welcome. >> and twelve seconds of terror and it can seem like an eternity if it is you with the twelve seconds of terror. here's what it's like. experience the twelve seconds. [explosion] [explosion] [screaming] >> fox news anchor bill hemmer joins us live from boston. the twelve seco
>> first of all the fbi and other law enforcement agencies need to plug the leaks. it's very irresponsible for someone with inside information in an investigation like this to put out information that could be detrimental and affect the integrity of the investigation. they could be prosecuted. they could be prosecuted for doing that. so they need to stop the leaks, first of all. they probably should have a spokesperson or someone at least providing some information to the media, even if...
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. >>> with law enforcement on high alert the unfolding investigation about who did it and why. >>> and in a scene that turned average citizens into first responders, the story of a bright spring day that ended in heart break and heroism. a special edition of >>> from boston, this is a special edition of "nightline," terror at the boston marathon with terry moran. >> good evening and thanks for joining us tonight from boston. a city reeling tonight in shock and sadness, really. we are just a few blocks away just down there from what was the finish line of the boston marathon. and in most years on this night these streets the heart of downtown boston would be humming with activity packed with people celebrating the achievement of the runners their loved ones coming from all over the world to support them. but tonight these streets are frozen in time when two bombs went off at the finish line, wounding more than 140, killing three, at least. including an eight-year-old. and tonight, the investigation is in full swing. the fbi is in charge. they are pursuing all leads, all of this, this gr
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he seems to be perfectly nor matter of law. so all the people like you that had recent dealings with him. never threatening. not undeservedly religious. and, yet, he's being responsible for one of the worst terror atrocities in modern american history. do you have any possible, plausible explanation? >> i would say civil influence is a big, big pack tor of that kind of thing. you'd be surprised. we still don't know all of the facts. that's why i'm very glad that the boston police were able to capture him live so we can get more info on this topic. we don't really know all of the information. >> i would say he shares an american live style, really, more than anything. >> well, in the days ahead, we will continue to speak to people who knew these two men -- boys, they were. >> the interesting thing is the relationship between the older brother and the younger brother. >> announcer: this is cnn breaking news. >> several minutes before 5:00 a.m. here on the east coast. this is cnn's continuing coverage. >> let's get the very latest
he seems to be perfectly nor matter of law. so all the people like you that had recent dealings with him. never threatening. not undeservedly religious. and, yet, he's being responsible for one of the worst terror atrocities in modern american history. do you have any possible, plausible explanation? >> i would say civil influence is a big, big pack tor of that kind of thing. you'd be surprised. we still don't know all of the facts. that's why i'm very glad that the boston police were...
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the rule of law exists before the crime, and that the law be followed when you're prosecuting this person as it existed at the time of the crime. there's no provision for the president of the united states to take this guy, as horrendous as we believe he is, as profound the evidence of his guilt, away from the criminal justice system and ship him to guantanamo bay. i'll make senator graham's argument for him. if this guy is really a soldier from a foreign country who put civilian clothing on, who was financed and trained and paid for and sent here by a foreign government that wants to destroy the united states of america, then he can be treated as a soldier of a foreign country, then you can be treated as an enemy combatant. but governor, there's not an iota of evidence to support that. in fact the evidence the fbi has said is to the contrary. mayor menino, governor patrick, the head of the fbi in boston, have all said these guys were not sent by a foreign government. >> mike: i think you make a great point, too, about the just dessert that people get. timothy mcveigh, a sense of justice
the rule of law exists before the crime, and that the law be followed when you're prosecuting this person as it existed at the time of the crime. there's no provision for the president of the united states to take this guy, as horrendous as we believe he is, as profound the evidence of his guilt, away from the criminal justice system and ship him to guantanamo bay. i'll make senator graham's argument for him. if this guy is really a soldier from a foreign country who put civilian clothing on,...
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we have the answers with "dobb's law". the analysis says the obama budget is fair on taxes he raises them on every one. details ahead. a plan to reform the immigration laws with gang of 8 but lamar smith says it of 8 but lamar smith says it is worse than we expected. you hurt my feelings, todd. i did? when visa signature asked everybody what upgraded experience really mattered... you suggested luxury car service instd of "strength training with patrick willis." come on todd! flap them chicken wings. [ grunts ] well, i travel a lot and umm... [ male announcer ] at visa signature, every upgradedxperience comes from listening to our cardholders. visa signature. your idea of what a card should be. ...amelia... neil and buzz: for teaching us that you can't create the future... by clinging to the past. and with that: you're history. instead of looking behind... delta is looking beyond. 80 thousand of us investing billions... in everything from the best experiences below... to the finest comforts above. we're not simply saluting
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activity but also a electronic signs posted throughout the city, morning commuters, urging them to notify law enforcement if they notice any suspicious activity this afternoon. so the parade goes on. the mayor making sure that there is a lot of police presence as many tried to ease nerves from the bombings of yesterday in boston. we're all familiar with terrorist threats here in the d.c. area. they enacted a readiness plan very quickly yesterday. the mayor held a press conference, making sure everything went on as scheduled today, but a lot of police presence. i know ever since may your williams instituted that back in 2005 it has been a staple of the hallmark here in the area for people to come out and celebrate and respect the important day. at the same time, we hired -- we we expect tols say see smaller crowds. at this point we expect smaller crowds? he really did not see the police presence here in washington, d.c. it is a very covert strategy at times. the you think there's a lot we do not know going on? >> the city officials, including the mayor, made it very clear you will see police.
activity but also a electronic signs posted throughout the city, morning commuters, urging them to notify law enforcement if they notice any suspicious activity this afternoon. so the parade goes on. the mayor making sure that there is a lot of police presence as many tried to ease nerves from the bombings of yesterday in boston. we're all familiar with terrorist threats here in the d.c. area. they enacted a readiness plan very quickly yesterday. the mayor held a press conference, making sure...
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news immediate y having to stay back and pushed back all day and crouching down with law enforcement as their guns were drawn. very intense going house by house to search the suspect. as you see people out here on the streets, feeling released that the suspect suspect has been captured. . >> starting last night with the police chase, there were 200 shot fires from the suspect. the suspect were throwing homemade explosives out of their car as the police were chasing him. i listened to one interview from the gentleman from the home near the shoot out, he says that he and his family were terrified. he kept on praying, he and his family, and wife and the dog all left into the bathroom and jumped into the bathtub. they kept their heads down and praying. now, here is president obama. >> after a vicious attack on their setting. they did their part as citizens and partner in this investigation. boston police and state police and local police across the commonweal massachusetts responded with bravery. tonight, we close an important chapter in this. after the attack on monday, i directed the f
news immediate y having to stay back and pushed back all day and crouching down with law enforcement as their guns were drawn. very intense going house by house to search the suspect. as you see people out here on the streets, feeling released that the suspect suspect has been captured. . >> starting last night with the police chase, there were 200 shot fires from the suspect. the suspect were throwing homemade explosives out of their car as the police were chasing him. i listened to one...
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. >> law enforcement says while this appears to be targeted, and it is too early to know who did this and how they pulled it off or why. the president was informed moments following the explosions and soon after he addressed the nation. >> any responsible individuals or groups will fill the full weight of justice. >> i can tell you there were many runners from the d.c. region here today. about 40-50 of them from the montgomery county road runners. all of them are ok tonight. one of them is right here. he is from rockville. you were saying earlier this is .he super bowl of running >> it really is. this is a big event for a lot of people that have spent their lives trying to qualify. many people train all year. it is catastrophic and hard to fathom what families are going through. >> glad you are all ok. dan said he was a block and a half when the bomb went off. group use with with r.o.k. but some did hear the bombs room where they exploded. tom ramsey, abc 7 news. >> there are many first-person accounts of what happened today. an arlington man was one of those people who had a front-ro
. >> law enforcement says while this appears to be targeted, and it is too early to know who did this and how they pulled it off or why. the president was informed moments following the explosions and soon after he addressed the nation. >> any responsible individuals or groups will fill the full weight of justice. >> i can tell you there were many runners from the d.c. region here today. about 40-50 of them from the montgomery county road runners. all of them are ok tonight....
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and so all of these are sort of tells that law enforcement is looking at. and as i said, there are probably a handful of pictures that have definitely reached the highest levels that are of the most interest, and that means they want to find these individuals, piers. >>s wi >> also, two terrorism experts about what kind of chatter there may be on jihadi websites. and interestingly, there isn't much. is that right? >> reporter: yeah. that's what's so surprising about this. and this is what has terrorism experts a little confused as to what the motive is of this. you know, usually when there is an event that's connected to a transnational, somebody from overse overseas, they will look for certain events. well, the events that were associated with this particular day had nothing to do with any sort of transnational incident. you know, on 9/11, everybody sort of gets worried that there is going to be another attack. sort of anniversary attack. but not the case. the forums have been especially quiet. there is not the usual chatter that people are not claiming cr
and so all of these are sort of tells that law enforcement is looking at. and as i said, there are probably a handful of pictures that have definitely reached the highest levels that are of the most interest, and that means they want to find these individuals, piers. >>s wi >> also, two terrorism experts about what kind of chatter there may be on jihadi websites. and interestingly, there isn't much. is that right? >> reporter: yeah. that's what's so surprising about this. and...
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terror, we were tense the whole time that it was obvious why enforcement but if which the amount of law enforcement in watertown was impressive in during their in the day and saw what had come into my apartment with the room by room search and the parameters were -- search and it is clear there were working hard to track down with a second suspect was hiding greta: how far was the house with the bow by your home? >> to 200 yards. it was right next door. and gunshots are very loud in person. it was too close. greta: describe how you feel tonight. >> mixed emotions emotions, obviously. thoughts are with people who suffered great losses and people that are struggling with injuries sustained and those who have loved ones that are hurt but in watertown? it is a gigantic relief and i am very proud to be from boston. i feel honored to be from boston to be honest. greta: i of so happy for that people from watertown and the people in the hospital to one week ago participating in a marathon and tonight they have to learn to walk with a prosthesis and as people applaud the have to remember this is
terror, we were tense the whole time that it was obvious why enforcement but if which the amount of law enforcement in watertown was impressive in during their in the day and saw what had come into my apartment with the room by room search and the parameters were -- search and it is clear there were working hard to track down with a second suspect was hiding greta: how far was the house with the bow by your home? >> to 200 yards. it was right next door. and gunshots are very loud in...
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we have the answers with "dobb's law". the analysis says the obama budget is fair on taxes he raises them on every one. details ahead. a plan to reform the immigration laws with gang of 8 but lamar smith says it is worse than we expected. i'm telling you right now, the girl back at home would absolutely not have taken a zip line in the jung. i'm really gd that girl stayed at home. vo: expedia helps 30 million travelers a month find what they're looking for. one traveler at a time. expedia. find yours. lou: remember when the president promised he would not raise taxes on the middle class? and analysis from the tax policy center finds his budget does that. between 100 and $200,000 per year will pay $150 more in taxes each year some earning less than 100,000 would pay just under $100 and congress is not expected to take up the president's budget anytime soon provide a report finds the internal revenue service over paid billions of dollars in tax credits designed to help low-income families and the ira's overpayments amount be
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that is what law enforcement needs to focus on. there are supporters this is boston. if someone is acting funny, their going to know. >> thank you. >> greta: now to dr. bodden. back to what the police are looking for. in the aftermath of the bombing as they comb the immediate debris field. and farther down the path what. do you think they're looking for? >> now, they're tracking hundreds of leads that have been called in because someone saw something, they'll be taking whatever materials from the field that might be part of a bomb device together with materials from surgeries tomorrow. and from first thing they'd do is identify bodies and take x rays of the dedeedent dedeedents -- deseedents and removing them, bringing that over to the crime lab. they're going to have -- they don't have to have the whole wirks only a little bit of wire, only from a little bit they can tell whot manufacture was, where waits sold in boston. they'll be finding a treasure trove of material in those fragments and a agree. they're now -- security cameras in this area where the bombs went of
that is what law enforcement needs to focus on. there are supporters this is boston. if someone is acting funny, their going to know. >> thank you. >> greta: now to dr. bodden. back to what the police are looking for. in the aftermath of the bombing as they comb the immediate debris field. and farther down the path what. do you think they're looking for? >> now, they're tracking hundreds of leads that have been called in because someone saw something, they'll be taking...
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it is reported that a law enforcement official is saying that an arrest is imminent. nbc news has not independently confirmed that so we're being cautious with it. scott is working the story up in boston. >> and it's time for street signs. >> we are start the show early today because we are packed. breaking news and moments on the
it is reported that a law enforcement official is saying that an arrest is imminent. nbc news has not independently confirmed that so we're being cautious with it. scott is working the story up in boston. >> and it's time for street signs. >> we are start the show early today because we are packed. breaking news and moments on the
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that law. we gave amnesty to all the people that had been illegally driving. get the back taxes. let's get to get them in the light of day so they are e andcted from abus an exploitation. we have high tech workers that don't come here but go to other countries and compete with us. we need people from ranchers to derek to farmers. i don't think this bill goes far enough. i would like to see more, but this is progress. >> your statement mentions several examples of how terrorist disadvantage of our system. even mention how awesome terrorists have applied and received asylum. you mentioned the bill would allow people will have filed a frivolous asylum applications benefits under the legalization system. do you know how many people fall into that category and how does the bill before us make the current system weaker? >> i do outlined in my written testimony a number of pages of terrorists who have taken advantage of asylum. we have most notably the case just a few weeks ago of the syrian national
that law. we gave amnesty to all the people that had been illegally driving. get the back taxes. let's get to get them in the light of day so they are e andcted from abus an exploitation. we have high tech workers that don't come here but go to other countries and compete with us. we need people from ranchers to derek to farmers. i don't think this bill goes far enough. i would like to see more, but this is progress. >> your statement mentions several examples of how terrorist...
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i was trying to help for 15 minutes then the law enforcement officers invited me to leave. they should have. this is not my bailiwick or area of expertise. i left. picked up my brother. we walked back across the bridge with thousands of other people. looked very much like 9/11. >> reporter: people are calling you a hero. >> they shouldn't. i did what anybody else should do in these circumstances. we are a resilient people. this is what we should do to respond. >> reporter: thanks very much. thanks for what you did. >> okay. thank you. >> reporter: we'll be right back. [ pacino ] the inches we need are everywhere around us. every minute. every second -- we fight for that inch. ♪ [ male announcer ] introducing the new 2014 jeep grand cherokee. it is passion given a purpose. every day we chip away, because that's the only way to see the best of what we're made of. well-qualified lessees can lease the 2014 grand cherokee laredo 4x4 for $359 a month. >>> it's been more than 11 years since the 9/11 attacks shocked this country into the 21st century and since then, there have be
i was trying to help for 15 minutes then the law enforcement officers invited me to leave. they should have. this is not my bailiwick or area of expertise. i left. picked up my brother. we walked back across the bridge with thousands of other people. looked very much like 9/11. >> reporter: people are calling you a hero. >> they shouldn't. i did what anybody else should do in these circumstances. we are a resilient people. this is what we should do to respond. >> reporter:...
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law enforcement can use video surveillance to find suspects not only by how they look, but as joe vazquez shows us, how they walk. >> we consider them to be armed and extremely dangerous. >> now that the fbi released photos, how will they find the bombers? >> all the time this individual has appeared. >> joe says sophisticated software, like the kind his company makes, produces video intelligence. the software uses facial recognition to sift through hours and hours of video and hundreds of photos taken on race day and it could reduce the amount of time it takes law enforcement to find even more images of the suspects. >> we're talking from several weeks, several months of investigation time to a matter of days, if not hours. >> analyzed the shape of the nose, the distance between the eyes, the hairline, and compare the photo of the suspect with other surveillance video, perhaps taken later at a train station or an airplane. but video intelligence is more than just facial recognition. some of these software programs examine other factors. your gate, for example, the way you walk, it turns
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>> there are 2,000 law-enforcement right now focused on this investigation. bitterly days and-- worth of film and footage and people calling putting this out there anybody around picks this up the people and telling me this investigation is that such a pace they're expecting something to break with an 48 and 72 hours. lou: as we listen to the special agent in charge when he talked about international all i hearr is the prospect that these two terrorists have eluded the united states and gone out of the country. your thoughts? spec --. >> definitely a possibility interviewing people at the airports to see if they had pictures and also to say did you see this person? identified the device so early like the unabomber it took a long time they are moving at a rapid pace to find as much information as possible from the public. lou: the way they walk through the crowd now i am the amateur sleuths they seem so comfortable and at ease and so relaxed and seemingly familiar. are these domestic terrorist or international? >> people who have seized -- receive some kind of
>> there are 2,000 law-enforcement right now focused on this investigation. bitterly days and-- worth of film and footage and people calling putting this out there anybody around picks this up the people and telling me this investigation is that such a pace they're expecting something to break with an 48 and 72 hours. lou: as we listen to the special agent in charge when he talked about international all i hearr is the prospect that these two terrorists have eluded the united states and...
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two gentlemen have law degrees. >> the court can arraign without a grand jury proceeding. and so, i think, you know, this is a very good thing to be doing outside of the military. we can show that in the united states there are normal criminal procedures. we don't need to declare him an enemy. that's calling him a soldier, but he's not. he's a terrorist. >> does he have to be present at the time the arraignment was delivered? >> he was arraigned in his hospital bed, which means that a federal magistrate came to the hospital and he had representation there. he has been charged. they can come in later and get a grand injury indictment. the complaint is the first step. >> you say he had representation there. i assume that word is very considered on your part, scott? do we know anything more about whether he has or has not been read his miranda rights? >> if he has been charged he probably has been. but it sounds like they delayed that. there was a public safety exception where they can question him about are there other devices planted elsewhere? under this public safety exce
two gentlemen have law degrees. >> the court can arraign without a grand jury proceeding. and so, i think, you know, this is a very good thing to be doing outside of the military. we can show that in the united states there are normal criminal procedures. we don't need to declare him an enemy. that's calling him a soldier, but he's not. he's a terrorist. >> does he have to be present at the time the arraignment was delivered? >> he was arraigned in his hospital bed, which...
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we discovered that the tax man will play a role in enforcing the rules of the law. you may be surprised by the penalties if you do not play by the rules. >> few people outside lawyers and accountants know about it, but the irs will be charged with playing enforcer for president obama's new law and if you are not insured it will impact your tax return beginning in the year 2014 and beyond. >> today's decision was a victory for people all over the country. >> this is about freedom of choice. >> medicare, taxes are going up on everybody. >> affordable insurance. >> the obama care program. >> all the political noise surrounding the implementation of the new affordable care act has obscured some of the finer points how the new law will effect each of us. this is a senior program officer of health reform and public programs. you think bit, you think, okay, health insurance, nobody's favorite topic and tax's nobody's favorite topic and we are putting them together. >> not only will they enforce compliance will the rules but they will administer subsidies to buy health care
we discovered that the tax man will play a role in enforcing the rules of the law. you may be surprised by the penalties if you do not play by the rules. >> few people outside lawyers and accountants know about it, but the irs will be charged with playing enforcer for president obama's new law and if you are not insured it will impact your tax return beginning in the year 2014 and beyond. >> today's decision was a victory for people all over the country. >> this is about...
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"dobbs law" next. ♪ are you still sleeping? just wanted to check and make sure that we were on schedule. the first technology of its kind... mom and dad, i have great news. is now providing answers families need. siemens. answers. ♪ lou: new details about a mississippi man now charged with sending letters laced with poison the president obama and senator roger wicker. paul caron curtis is a musician, as you might have guessed. a video, an elvis impersonator. he previously had written, uncovered a conspiracy to assault the human bodyarts on the black market. curtis appeared in federal court earlier. his attorney maintaining that he is not guilty. joining us tonht. former prosecutors, good to have you both with us. it is terrific. i'm sorry. i have to take this more seriously. when you have an elvis impersonator going after the president's and senator weicker, i am sure there is no one that finds it funny, but to me it is bizarre beyond belief. >> it has to be a killer impersonation. had to do it. i just have to perry is going
"dobbs law" next. ♪ are you still sleeping? just wanted to check and make sure that we were on schedule. the first technology of its kind... mom and dad, i have great news. is now providing answers families need. siemens. answers. ♪ lou: new details about a mississippi man now charged with sending letters laced with poison the president obama and senator roger wicker. paul caron curtis is a musician, as you might have guessed. a video, an elvis impersonator. he previously had...
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lead law enforcement agency. they are the ones that will coordinate the whole thing. what's fascinating there as well is you have robert mueller who pardon me has been on the job for several years. his term has been extended once and now he is done in a few months. this is going to be his last major investigation. he has already got one foot out the door. you have a completely new national security team here at the white house for the second term. john killing a at state. john brennan. and this whole new group of people around him, the president, who are being tested here very quickly. let's remember what we have been talking about and you have been talking about it on your show for weeks is about immigration reform and gun control and the budget and what is he going to do on the grand budget. all of a sudden that's on the back burner. >> bill: the terrorism thing becomes a major issue because this is the second time now we have been hit and 9/11, of course, being the first. the president basically is dependent now on multi-cultural and the fbi. and those guys are not
lead law enforcement agency. they are the ones that will coordinate the whole thing. what's fascinating there as well is you have robert mueller who pardon me has been on the job for several years. his term has been extended once and now he is done in a few months. this is going to be his last major investigation. he has already got one foot out the door. you have a completely new national security team here at the white house for the second term. john killing a at state. john brennan. and this...
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i want to bring in now nbc news justice correspondent pete williams, who's been in touch with his law enforcement sources on this story all night. pete, what can you tell us? >> well, i guess there's several things we're trying to nail down. i guess the big question here now is who are they? we've heard from a couple of officials that they don't have a positive identification on them, but they've been tentatively identified. they believe, at least it's the initial assessment of the two law enforcement people i've talked to, that they came to the u.s. about a year ago. we don't know precisely from where. they may have some -- a bit of military experience overseas, which could possibly explain their facility with explosives. and that is our operating assumption right now. it appears that this all started when they tried to rob a 7-eleven tonight. a policeman responded. they killed the policeman. that set off all this whole chain of events to the carjacking, to the point that one of them stopped the car in watertown, massachusetts. the other got out with an improvised bomb strapped to hi
i want to bring in now nbc news justice correspondent pete williams, who's been in touch with his law enforcement sources on this story all night. pete, what can you tell us? >> well, i guess there's several things we're trying to nail down. i guess the big question here now is who are they? we've heard from a couple of officials that they don't have a positive identification on them, but they've been tentatively identified. they believe, at least it's the initial assessment of the two...